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amd turion x2 vs turion 64 vs core duo t2500 Alienware Aurora  mlax ,msi s271 turion ml44 tl56 benchmark review
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Since many years, AMD represents  more than alternative  to INTEL. In the world of the machines known as  disktop, Amd  managed to dominate the market  until the arrival of Core 2 duo that make an end to the privoous Athlon 64 domination, the latter made good success  career right now. 

Benefitting from  two notebook, one from MSI and the other by Alienware, we decided to make this review.We will start with you to quickly forward this new processor    Turion 64, the "X2".With Aurora mALX, Alienware proposes a notebook equipped with a  19 inches screen.this notebook has the  graphic solution containing GeForce Go 7900 in SLI and of 2 GIG of memory…Simply high-end equipment.¶

K8 architecture Turion 64 ?¶

We said  in our introduction,that AMD win the war for desktop computer for few years vs its direct competitor " INTEL ", and AMD   cleared it s position with  Athlon 64.This Position was confirmed  by arrival of the Athlon 64 X2.This war right know is in the side of intel witch showed the conroe cpu witch proved that it is faster than current A64 cpu.but This is only a branch of industry ,The war excit with note book computer where amd has deal with the powerful intel centrino .so To compete with INTEL, AMD  need a name to  the purchasers That could be attached, a kind of Centrino "made in Athlon".The idea was very simple:AMD as intel do not wait for the development  architecture and renamed  the processors Athlon 64 low power to Turion 64.

However, as we have just explained , the design of Turion does not have anything  vs the desktop cpu.AMD  tries to make us believe that it is about  new architecture, but it should be understood that Turion 64 is no more than an Athlon 64.Same manner follow,the Turion 64 X2 in our MSI notebook, this was the Athlon 64 X2 low power version. this architecture is inspired directly from the famous " K8" which starts to show  age vs the new INTEL come Core 2 duo (based  on architecture Pentium M), in one word  Turion 64/Turion 64 X2 is the best that amd can offer right know to response to large artillery proposed by INTEL.


Turion 64 X2 architecture

Admittedly, Turion 64 resembles like two Athlon 64, but without entering interminable explanations.Thus, like its little brother, Turion 64 X2 is 64 bits processor . natively this cpu can code 64 bits as 32 bits application, on the contrary  Core Duo which equipe many notebook   (while waiting for Merom).Beside this double compatibility, AMD decided to add  certain number of instructions to its new cpu  sixteen registers 64 bits like sixteen registers 128 bits SSE/SSE2/SSE3.this was done by AMD to improve the multimedia application in  its processors, technology DIGITAL Media XPress is a part.

X2 obliges, new Turion  AMD to integrates two core in  one so instead of 754 pins to which the mobile AMD processor  had accustomed , the one use 638 … .In  future, AMD should pass to  65 Nm, but it still satisfied with the 90 Nm on the Turion 64 X2 Tl-56 integrated into our  MSI notebook.the range of those turion x2   contain  four models  Tl-50 (1,6 GHz, 2x256 KB L2 cache, TDP of 31 Watts) , Tl-60 (2,0 GHz, 2x512 KB L2 cache, TDP of 35 Watts).Let us note that AMD    use technique of  separated cache each core has it own cache whereas INTEL prefers to choose the common shared cache:each cpu can acess to the hole amount of cache.In addition the cache  AMD processors   Turion 64 X2 has an integrated memory controller .Small update, this controller work now in (dual channel) deals with memory DDR2 and can work with slot So-dimm PC3200 (Ddr2-400), PC4200 (Ddr2-533) and PC5300 (Ddr2-667).Let us note on this subject, That the DDR2 is characterized by lower power consumption  than The DDR 1.¶

We will have of course the occasion to reconsider these questions about the consumption later in this review.the Centrino platform is particularly famous in this case, AMD was obliged to look for some energy saving function of its Turion 64 X2..¶

MSI S271-W1 notebook review

MSI S271-W1
Processor Model Turion 64 X2 TL56
Frequency / cache 1600 MHz, 512 K
Meomory installed / max 1024 Mb / 2048 Mb
used slot  / empty 1 / 1
Frequency 166 MHz
VGA Contoler ATI Xpress 1150
Video memory 128 MB shared
Display / format 12,1" / 16:10
native Resolution 1280x800
Hard Disque capacity / cache 100 Gig / 8 MB
Rotation spped 5400 RPM.
Model Fujitsu MVH2100AH
CD-RW formats CDRW / DVD±RW DL
Read / write 24/24/10 ; 8/8/4/2,4
model TSSTcorp TS-L532M
CardBus Reader / PCMCIA YES, type II
Battery Installed / max 1 / 1
Power 4400 mAh
Sound AC'97,  2.0
Network card 10 / 100 / 1000
Hand FREE  / modem 802.11 b/g / V92
USB / FireWire 3 / 1 (4 Port)
VGA OUT/ S-Video / Comp. 1 / 0 / 0
casque / micro / S/PDIF 1 / 1 / 0
Dimension (LxPxH) 303 x 225 x 26/28 mm
Weight 1,80 Kg
Wrantly 2 YEARS
Cost 1500 euros

Turion 64 X2 and ultra-notebook MSI S271-w1

MSI proposes a rather compact portable, with the choice, between black or white.The manufacturer did not make   its logo  on the top.Ultra-portable  S271 has a small size although the battery is somwhow big.Taking into account the integrated components , MSI could with difficulty  made it smaller and  remain in the price range    that  have been fixed (to less than 1500 euros).Far from being ugly, S271 does not make any progress over the S250/S260,

Compared to these S250/S260, MSI also preserved the format 12,1 inches of the screen, moreover identical to  its predecessors:it  proposes a resolution of 1280x800, ideal in this kind of machines.Under Windows (XP Home  provided), the notebook woked correctly .Side of the angles vision,  well I quickly recalled : the majority of  competitor portables,    preserve a sufficient luminosity.Under the screen, we finds  five function buttons   which make  possible  to regulate the light of the screen .

MSI did not   integrate a trackpoint into the keyboard and like the majority of  current portables, S271 use completely suitable touchpad.…Of course, the functions  integrated into the touchpad are part. under the touchpad  MSI chose to insert  various LED. Lastly, let us note the excellent provision of  various connectors around the laptop:perhaps some will regret the absence of S-Video out.Let us underline  the presence of ports USB on the two sides of thisnotebook:that can prove  be usuful when u place the laptop in small area.

Let us dig a little the things

Our article being devoted to Turion 64, of course this processor that the manufacturer chose to integrate into S271, and it is more precisely the model X2 Tl-56 . working at 1,8 GHz, this processor  has  2x512 KB in it L2 cache the laptop come coupled with one slot of 1024 MB  memory given working at 300 MHz.The use of only one memory is slot is despointing since it will be improssible to benefit from the dual channel mode that the controller support..In the system main part,  we finds the chipset ATI Xpress 1150.this Recent,  deals with the majority of current technologies (PCI-Express bus, Serial ATA, USB 2.0,  TV out…).

the Xpress 1150 express is certainly not the monster of power, but it integrates the   Radeon X300, this video chip is capable graphic  to contribue in the video decoding (apart from the high definition sequences  of course) and can run some small 3d applications .we appreciated  the progress made by MSI in regards of the hard disk.If the manufacturer did not choose the 7200 rpm drive,but it finally left  the 4200 rpm  which is the slowest . here we have a model 5400 rpm of 100 Gig from Fujitsu with 8 MB cache.

Plus, MSI supplements the peripherals  storage with a card reader compatible with memory Secure DIGITAL/MultiMedia Card/Memory Stick and with a reader PCMCIA/Cardbus standard II.The system  does not have anything  original and even if MSI employed ALC 882 component , the quality of the speakers limits the interest of  thing.The network interfaces are  definitely more convincing and the S271  for example has a gigabit Ethernet the Bluetooth is integrated and the Wifi passes is compatible with 802.11 b/g.

Let us finish this presentation of this S271 by specifying that MSI proposes two machines with this reference.That which we reviewd today, is the high end model, this is the S271-w1.It costs approximately 1500 euro,  having Turion 64 X2 Tl-56 with 100GIG hard disk  as well as the double layer DVD-RW .The second model, is the S271-o1 costs a little more than 1200 euro.It come with the Turion 64 X2 Tl-50, a hard disk of 80 GIG and  double layer DVD-RW.

Alienware Aurora mALX review

Alienware  propose a transportable machines able to compete with most powerful desktop PC. 

the first thing that we can say that Aurora mALX creates sensation.never   used similar notebook . the screen is impressive. here we have  19 inch model!Alienware does not have to increases the resolution (1680x1050) since the m7700, but that is completely sufficient.¶


Above this screen,  we note the presence of small  webcam discrete with 1,3 megapixel .The keyboard is well fetched  since Alienware  benefits from space available to propose true one:the manufacturer  could integrer a complete keyboard with 105 keys.Above the keyboard, we finds the traditional function buttons   which in particular make  possible to regulate the light of the screen,and to activate /deactivate/ launch various applications. 

With dimensions of the mALX, Alienware on had well the possibility to integrer   many ports as you can see it on our table bellow:

ALienware Aurora mALX
Processor Model Turion 64 ML-44
Frequency / cache 2400 MHz, 1MB
Meomory installed / max 2048 Mb / 2048 Mb
used slot  / empty 2 / 2
Frequency 166 MHz
VGA Contoler 2 x geforce go 7900
Video memory 512 Mo
Display / format 19" / 16:10
native Resolution 1680x1050
Hard Disque capacity / cache 2x100 Gig / 8 MB
Rotation spped 7200 RPM.

Momentus 7200.1

CD-RW formats CDRW / DVD±RW DL
Read / write 24/24/16 ; 8/8/8/6

NEC ND-6750A

CardBus Reader / PCMCIA YES, type II
Battery Installed / max 1 / 1
Power 6600 mAh
Sound audigy 2,  7.1
Network card 10 / 100 / 1000
Hand FREE  / modem 802.11 b/g / V92
USB / FireWire 5 / 1 (4 Port)
VGA OUT/ S-Video / Comp. 1 (Dvi)/ 1 /1
casque / micro / S/PDIF 1 / 1 / 1
Dimension (LxPxH)

476 x 343 x 35 mm

Weight 680 Kg
Wrantly 1YEARS
Cost 4000 euros

Contrary to MSI, Alienware was not interested in new Turion 64 X2 .The manufacturer was satisfied with "basic" Turion 64 .working at 2,4 GHz, this processor is equipped with 2x512 KB L2 cache :2 GIG of DDR2 PC-3200. Alienware specifies that only two slot memory can be filled out in Aurora mALX and this information was confirmed by CPU-Z.This last indicates to us that  theoretically it is possible to add two other memory module, but nowhere Alienware does not mention this possibility .However, 2 GIG of read-write memory is already more than enough for all current game and application

the manufacturer chose a RAID of two hard disks 2,5 inches.Configurable  RAID can be produced using discs 120 GIG 5400 rpm.or 100 GIG 7200 rpm for optimal performances.All seems to ok on this mALX since the graphic solution was made by the technology SLI from NVIDIA with two GeForce Go 7900 GTX…these two card has 256 Mb video memory, say a total of 512 MB of video memory!However, Alienware did not forget the small details which could  wast the integration of this SLI and  proposes to us  exit DVI as well as the S-Video exit.

Alienware did not integrat a card reader compatible with memory Compact Flash and u will be satisfied with the traditional Secure DIGITAL, MultiMedia Card and Memory Stick.A card reader PCMCIA/Cardbus is  there , Alienware delivers in addition to its machine its Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS .

Side  network interfaces , Alienware was more reasonable.It should be said that modern notebook propose already in their  great majority many functions and with share to integrate two Ethernet ports.The manufacturer thus remains "modest" and come witha compatible port RJ45 gigabit,  Bluetooth and Wifi .That will be enough as the main part .Lastly,  Alienware has incredible quantity of accessories .the mouse USB Razer Diamondback , the Alienware key-ring, the DVD  restoration, various driver CD, a S-Video adapter/Composite/YUV, a disk drive USB, a helmet Alienware Ozma 7 ...A quite beautiful technological demonstration in any case!

Turion 64 / 64 X2 benchmark test

We  limited our tests to some well-known software whose objective is to measure    the performances of the processor alone and another side the performances of the subsystem .Although the frequencies of operation distort a little the comparison (2,4 GHz for Turion 64 against 1,6 GHz for Turion 64 X2), we put them face to face with   Asus notebook equipped with Core Duo T2500 (2 GHz).

Cinebench cpumark 99 science mark 2 benchmark

Joined together in a 3 graph, CPUMark 99, CineBench 2003 and ScienceMark are obviously there to measure the processormathimatique capability.Immediately, the result obtained under CPUMark seems the least convincing:rather old, this software does not exploit at all the characteristics of our various processors and seems to be directly influenced by their frequency .it is quite naturally that we finds at the head, the least modern processor, Turion 64.Optimized double for dual core, CineBench 2003 and ScienceMark give results  more interesting.the Core Duo T2500 fly away  obtaining twice the first place.Then the conclusions depend on the software.CineBench 2003 seems  definitely more optimized and Turion 64 X2 remains in contact with Core Duo whereas Turion 64 is completely outdistanced.In ScienceMark on the other hand, X2 precedes its little brother only by few points.¶

SiSoft Sandra 2005 mobile Turion 64 - Sandra 2005

SiSoft Sandra 2005 proposes several series of tests, but we retained here only the one measuring the processor and memory instruments.In the first case, the conclusions approach to what we had seen previously.The dual core improve a lot the result .Turion 64 X2 makes equal performance with Core Duo, but basic Turion 64 cannot compete with them .¶

FutureMark PCMark 05 notebook Turion 64 - PCMark 05

PCMark 05 proposes to measure the performances of the hdd  and graphic card, but we was especially interested  for the test of the processor and memory, like Sandra 2005  .Turion are in Net loose,  taking into account the 800 MHz which separates it from the Turion 64, the X2 model  left there more  honourably, with 5 % higher performances  than its little brother.Side memory , we does not find  the results obtained under Sandra 2005.the positions was changed and  Turion 64 preserves its last place, Core Duo must for the first time fail.However, the variation with Turion 64 X2 is far from being convincing (hardly 2 %).

FutureMark 3DMark 05 notebook Turion 64 - 3DMark 05

Before graphic  tests , we wanted to finish this rapid cpu test to put the Turion 64/Turion 64 X2 in a small test 3d and we  reserved on the most traditional of them, 3DMark 05.Here, it is not of course  question about testing the cpu , but the test is fully video card based.we was not able to make this test on Asus Core Duo so we integrated into this chart  three new notebook:¶

- MSI S260 (Pentium M 730, 1,6 GHz, 512 Mo RAM, graphic chip i915GM)

- old Xbook XB3 CL56 (Pentium M 735, 1,7 GHz, 512 Mo RAM, graphic chip Radeon Mobility 9700)

- Alienware Area-51m (Pentium IV, 3,6 GHz, 1024 MB  RAM, graphic chip GeForce Go 6800)

Alienware mALX could not be compared to any of the tested noetbook.It completely crushes the competition and even the Area-51m could not catch outdistanced (by 82 %).  the MSI S271 does not fight  in this benchmark  category.However, its integrated graphic solution, is based on ATI Radeon X300.this last result with more than four times superior than the msi s260.

sli go 7900gtx benchmark

If our test were primarily intended to see the behavior of Turion 64 of AMD, the occasion to test the SLI  GeForce Go 7900 was too beautiful to be missed.Various measurements were done to have a small idea of what the mALX,notebook was capable.

all test result are in 1024x786 resultion

Return To Castle Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory

Unreal Tournament 2003

Return To Castle Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory and Unreal Tournament 2003.In a case as in the other, the passage from the GeForce Go 6800 to the SLI of GeForce Go 7900 is not justified at all in the measurement since borth video card are capable to provide playble frame rate in all resolution.The SLI obtain a substantial profit under Unreal Tournament 2003  .Before contuning with  other tests, let us note  that  with Alienware Area-51m, the processor of the mALX seems to give a nice performances boost for the  the graphic system .

Doom 3

Far CRy

half-life 2

Doom 3, Far Cry and Half-Life 2.The title/titre of id Software profits a lot from the sli   graphic   subsystem.The SLI makes  performances increase  by 24 % in 800x600   and  1280x1024 (+ 67 %). Half-Life 2 conduit to the same observations and  the profit is definitely more consequent (+ 22,82 % in 1280x1024)

Doom3 fssa4x/aniso8

farcry fssa4x/aniso8

half-life 2 fssa4x/aniso8

The last stage of our graphic tests takes again the same software as the preceding one, but under appreciably different conditions since we activated here the options of antialiasing (4x) and the  anisotropic filtering (8x).As we could suspect it, on Doom 3 these new parameters still the same the difference between GeForce Go 6800 and the SLI  GeForce Go 7900:from + 67 % in 1280x1024 on our preceding tests, we pass now to + 107,58 %!Under Far Cry also, we feels the impact of the "advanced" functions, we passes  from + 4,46 % to + 13,13 %. Lastly, Half-Life 2 show  a little more than the results obtained under Doom 3.the passage from GeForce Go 6800 with the SLI  GeForce Go 7900 is beneficial, but  we observed a profit of 22,82 % in 1280x1024 in the preceding test.

the effectiveness of the SLI  GeForce Go 7900 is true.It brings real profits over the single GeForce Go 6800.we put the resolution of up to 1280x1024, but Alienware mALX functions natively in 1680x1050, a resolution which will logically will make more  variations in the gaming speed.the only  regret is the processor choice of Alienware since   clearly appears that on many tests, this last limit the graphic subsystem..


In the case of  the Alienware mALX, we get a quite simply high equipment and  graphic performances, but Turion 64 seems to be the principal limiting factor .Our second notebook,is  the MSI S271, the notebook is well designed, cheap and very pleasant to use, but there still the Turion 64,and  this time X2.

¶BatteryMark v4.0.1 (results in minutes)

Before commenting  the results of chart obtained with BatteryMark,once again we  specify that this software  simulates a "nice" use of the machine. However, the results of the Turion processors are interesting in more than one way.It should be noted first  that  the integration of  SLI  GeForce Go 7900 and the screen 19 inches, Alienware mALX increases the result of Area-51m with almost 15 minutes.the machine  has a low battery life   (less than 90 minutes) and fortunately that Turion 64 consumes less energy than Pentium IV 560.


More interesting, the case of Turion 64 X2 integrated by MSI enables us to reconsider certain characteristics announced by AMD.With the launching of his new laptop cpu,  amd had actually specified that new functions of energy saving .Thus, with the manner of INTEL on its Core duo, Turion 64 X2 is able to manage the deactivation of each core  in an independent way.The HyperTransport bus can also pass with various states in order to save the battery these two elements make  possible to reduce the power consumption of the processor .Thus in "full mode" Core Duo (31W) consumes a little less than one Turion 64 X2 (between 31W and 35W), this last takes again the advantage of each deactivatiob stage .The idle power (13,1W against 10W) with the major idle (1,8W against 0,85W), Turion 64 X2 seems to carry about the power each time.¶


In the absence of comparable portable Core Duo , we were  obliged to get back  this good old  MSI S260 and his Pentium M 730.we turn BatteryMark during 147 minutes whereas S271 reached  exactly 210 minutes.Knowing that  MSI changed the chipset  (exchanging  the i915GM for an ATI  Xpress 1150).S260 was equipped only with one battery 2200 mAh when S271 is provided with a model 4400 mAh.

Sound noise effects idle/full load (in dB)

mobile Turion 64 -  noise effects

As always, we finish this double test of portables with a small noise test.the question of  noise is particularly delicate,Measured using a sonometer  the sound  effects of the MSI S271 and Alienware mALX were compared with  their predecessors, the MSI S260 and Alienware Area-51m.we can put that on the account that the video card are more developed ,more powerful, requires of course  more power and then significant cooling .

the MSI S271 remained  quite:data compression,  photo editing or  with DVD did not   exceed the 40 dB.On the other hand, it quickly became  noisy when 3DMark 05 was launched.Chipset ATI Xpress 1150  makes  possible  increase in the performances , but that was at the cost of the noise ( 46,6 dB, it is really  noisy). the case of Alienware mALX which really does not remain a long time to 37,7 dB.The least  under Word  passes  to 41 dB.The following stage is reached with the use of  DVD ( close to  43 dB), finally the tests under 3DMark 05 to 45,8 dB.


we arrived here to the conclusion .Since we had only few   occasion to study the   Turion 64 single core, we benefitted from this review to make it as comparaison , but the center of this article remains  the new Turion 64 X2 that MSI decided to integrate into its new S271. finally,  AMD could not make opposite to the famous Core Duo. Certainly, Turion is less expensive than its counterpart , but this is the only advantage witch it seems to have.Turion 64 X2 does not bring  really any again and.However, it is not  question of a bad processor:the performances are good with interesting energy saving option, but AMD do nothing  there, it simply seems to follow the intel movement.¶


MSI proves to us however that Turion 64 X2 can be used as a basis for interesting laptop.Chipset ATI Xpress 1150 is  indicated  for less than 1500 euro.This S271 is not the most beautiful, neither the most powerful,but  the laptop is pretty fast for office and daily task use 


The mALX.After having impressed the world with models of 17 inches, Alienware decided to go further and its mALX is simply the most complete portable never considering… the question here that we speak about portable pc with seven kilos!However this laptop is successful with  incredible equipment.Graphic solution and subsystem disc are  powerful  u can Plays (even largest current productions), applications 3d,  with a superb screen 19 inches no probleme at all.,the only interrogation ithe price.

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